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    08/05/07 at 04:34 PM
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I have to agree Marcia.....How could you mistake Paul for Artie, fluffy hood or no fluffy hood.....You need Specsavers matey!!!


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    09/05/07 at 01:12 AM
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What a shock for Edie, Paul, and the rest of the band.

http://www.nme.com/news/paul-simon/30889

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    09/05/07 at 05:30 AM
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Far too many guns and relaxed gun laws in America - that should never have happened


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    09/05/07 at 11:53 AM
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This is a real tragedy. I am at loss for words.

And I agree with Marcia. It is really hard to understand for us here in Europe that it is that easy to shoot at someone outside the door (evan if you are scared) and will not be made responsible for what you did.
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    09/05/07 at 01:35 PM
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well you're also in Texas and that's a free for all when it comes to "the right to bear arms". Thanks to Bush it got even worse.
If someone knocks at your door there is no reason to shoot IMO. They are outside so why shoot at them? Unless there is much more to the story than what the news says. They are not right often.
But why was he at his neighbor's door at 4AM? You are taking a chance on getting shot that way there in Texas and someone who is from there would know that. Too little info to know what exactly went on there. 
I always heard you can shoot (or defend yourself against) an intruder in the US when they are inside your home and you feel threatened. So always invite them in and then shoot or shoot and then drag them in....hmm strange laws indeed.

maybe there was trouble between the two from way back and the burglar story was just to make it look good.
Who knows the real story...

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    09/05/07 at 01:53 PM
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New Bohemians keyboard player shot to death

Jeffrey Albrecht shot while trying to kick in girlfriend's neighbor's door

Updated: 9:53 a.m. ET Sept. 4, 2007

DALLAS - The shooting death of a member of Edie Brickell & New Bohemians appears to fall under state law permitting deadly force in self-defense, police said Tuesday.

A grand jury will decide whether the man who shot Jeffrey Carter Albrecht will be indicted, but Sgt. Larry Lewis said Dallas police aren’t pursuing charges.

Police said Albrecht, 34, was inebriated and had been fighting with his girlfriend Monday before he was shot by a neighbor of the girlfriend.

The neighbor, who was not immediately identified, woke up around 4 a.m. to his wife screaming that someone was breaking into the house, police said. The neighbor yelled through the door for Albrecht to leave and then fired his handgun through the door, hitting Albrecht in the head.

“He yelled several verbal warnings, ‘I’ll shoot! I’ll shoot!’,” Lewis said. “From what we gather, he fired near the top of the door, hoping he would scare the person away.”

The homeowner, whose identity wasn’t released, was not arrested.

The shooting came two days after the enactment of a new state law, nicknamed the “Castle Doctrine,” that gives Texans a stronger legal right to defend themselves with deadly force in their homes, cars and workplaces. Police and prosecutors, however, said the shooter appeared to be protected under an earlier law that allows a person to protect their property with deadly force to “prevent the other’s imminent commission ... of criminal mischief during the nighttime.”

“In an incident like that you’re well within your rights under the old law, as well as the new one, to use deadly force,” Dallas District Attorney Craig Watkins said.

Albrecht, who went by his middle name, had been a keyboard player for New Bohemians since 1999, according to the band’s Web site. His death stunned friends and those who knew him in the North Texas music community.

“I am heart broken,” Edie Brickell wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press on Tuesday.

“We are all completely devastated by the news of Carter’s death, and obviously still quite in shock,” Brandon Aly, drummer for New Bohemians, wrote in another e-mail.

Albrecht played several times with Brickell’s husband, Paul Simon. He also played with Texas musician Charlie Sexton, a renowned guitarist.

He also played keyboard and guitar and sang for Sorta, named in 2006 as the best local music act by the Dallas Observer.

Edie Brickell & New Bohemians scored a breakout hit in 1989 with “What I Am.” They broke up for several years but regrouped and put out an album last year.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press.
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    09/05/07 at 02:16 PM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/05/us/05dallas.html?ex=1346644800&en=ddd3b5af5a0ae1a9&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss



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    09/05/07 at 04:08 PM
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Good Lord...


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    09/05/07 at 11:52 PM
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I see many victims here, the man who shot him has to live with that now. It's got to be hard to make that right choice at 4 AM and you don't know what's happening. If you believe someone is trying to kick your door down at 4AM, what would you do?  You can't reason with them when they are drunk.  Everyone feels bad for the dead person, as usual.

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    09/07/07 at 07:35 AM
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It's got to be hard to make that right choice at 4 AM and you don't know what's happening. If you believe someone is trying to kick your door down at 4AM, what would you do? 


Call the police.

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    09/07/07 at 07:37 AM
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well you're also in Texas and that's a free for all when it comes to "the right to bear arms". Thanks to Bush it got even worse.


I'm sure that you've visited Texas many times, both before and after Bush's governorship (or were you talking about his presidency?) 

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    09/07/07 at 07:51 AM
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No, I've visited Texas once and it's too wild a state for me.
I hear things from Texas people telling me how many guns they own, how they shoot this or that, shooting is one of those things they enjoy doing, learning to shoot is part of growing up. Didn't Cheney shoot someone on Mr B's ranch( by accident of course)? Us, Europeans would think there's a war if we saw so many gun racks in vehicles here. Maybe the guerillas in South America do the same but they are at war....
I figure Bush did that state no good, just like he did the country no good.
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    09/07/07 at 07:56 AM
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Oh and the police take too long, ya gotta shoot now and not wait for the cops to do it for you...LOL

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    09/07/07 at 09:40 AM
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Oh and the police take too long, ya gotta shoot now and not wait for the cops to do it for you...LOL



It looks like you think this is funny, in my eyes it's a tragedy what happened.
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    09/07/07 at 12:14 PM
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well when I lived in the south many cops told me their attitude was to shoot first and ask questions later; so that seems a lot of the mentality...You do not mess with southern cops, there is no talking to most of them when you get pulled over or something like that, like you could up north. Many people there have that same  mindset. It's how they are raised.
I don't think it's funny at all! I said in earlier posts that I thought there are nothing but victims left behind in this...there are no winners. jeeeeezzzz.....
For all we know that neighbor is a hothead who was triggerhappy or the dead person was acting real crazy or both...

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    09/07/07 at 01:40 PM
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It is interesting that they are questioning whether he could have had a reaction to Chantix (a new quit smoking drug) combined with alcohol. I hope the drug doesn't cause this kind of reaction because it has been very successful in helping people stop smoking when they haven't been successful before. One thing to keep in mind is that smoking withdrawal alone does cause the same symptoms so perhaps the drug just enhances those sypmptoms. People are cautioned against drinking while taking the drug. In any case it is a trajedy for everyone involved. I am sure there are many anti-gun residents in Texas, but it does have the reputation of cowboy/outlaw/ wild west mentality.


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    09/07/07 at 01:50 PM
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Isn't it the case that you can't drink alcohol with most medication? I agree it would magnify the side effects and withdrawal symptoms. That could explain his irrational behavior that night. And it was said the neighbor aimed high to not hit anynone but the "intruder" being so tall...



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    09/07/07 at 04:18 PM
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http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-musiciandead_05met.ART.State.Edition2.4247864.html
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Everyone reacts differently to meds too, they have to take that into account. And quitting smoking is no joke. The withdrawal symptoms are tremendous for some. I think it's probably easier to get off heroin.
In defence of the guy who shot him, there had been burglaries near his home and the way Carter Albrecht acted was probably scaring the heck out of the guy and his wife. I say he was in his right when you go by the newspaper story.
To me, it was an unfortunate accident. 
But I don't agree with the weak gun "laws" (maybe "allowances" would be the better word), especially in the southern US. Too many take the law into their own hands.
The "right to bear arms" is a part of the constitution from ages ago, this is not the same world as G. Washington lived in.
We do fine here without all the guns in people's homes. There is crime everywhere but guns bring on more violence, not less. It's so much easier to use deadly force when you have a gun.
It's a neverending argument of course, so ....

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    09/08/07 at 03:54 AM
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Here is another article, the 911 call from the tragically accident. Sadly the shooter was  panic-stricken, afterwards it's always easy to say this but if only he would have shot at the bottom of the door, Carter would have lived if he had been shot in his leg or foot.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5114638.html

 
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    09/08/07 at 05:31 AM
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well I think they usually say to "aim low" if you feel your life is in danger and have no choice. But then, one never knows. And at such a time who on earth sits and thinks about it? You have to react to a situation in a split second. the guy will have a tough road ahead thinking about this. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

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    09/08/07 at 08:51 AM
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Could he not have called the police and then whacked the intruder with a baseball bat if he got inside the house?  Or better still, run out the back and get away.  There is always an alternative to guns.


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    09/08/07 at 09:27 AM
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Of course!  had there been no gun, Carter would be alive and this man would not be in the position he's in...

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    09/08/07 at 03:30 PM
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The guy's wife was stll in the house so he couldn't have just run away. Too bad he had a gun, though. Sad story with lots of repercusions.


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    11/01/09 at 11:53 AM
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On Edie Brickell's website, is it true that the video with the song "Stories that we tell ourselves" is of the grounds of their house and that the dogs and cat in the video are theirs ?  Just got the Paul Simon newsletter, think it's from Bodo or someone ?  They seem to think it's a farm that Paul and his wife live on ... they don't even live on a farm.  Is that actually Edie Brickell singing ?


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    11/01/09 at 01:15 PM
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The song and voice is definitely Edie´s. It was on her My-Space-Site for a while. As far as I can remember she said, that she took the video herself. So there is a possibility that these are their own dogs. I don´t know how large their property in Connecticut is, but it would be possible that there is "some space" around the house.



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    11/03/09 at 08:25 AM
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One of the dogs in the video does look like one of his dogs I saw in a picture once ...

In that case, they have a Caviler King Charles and what looks like two terrier-mixes plus a cat.  You know what they say about looking like your dog !  We once had a conversation on this site where we had to guess if Paul & Artie were dogs, which breed they would be.  I do remember saying that Paul would definitely be a terrier.  You would think that with all the land they have, they would go for bigger breeds.

I thought Edie Brickell would have sounded like Nanci Griffith or Dolly Parton.  She doesn't.  Maybe she's lost her Texan accent !  (She must have given it to Paul - he went through a phase of an exaggerated drawl)   

She gave her Texan drawl to Paul.  That rhymes, well done Marcia.  You could make a song out of that Paul.  



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    11/03/09 at 05:48 PM
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Well done, Marcia!
I think one of the pups is a shit tzu; it looks like my friend's dog- bad teeth and all..... I would have thought they would have a larger dog, too! Guess no need for a guard dog????
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    11/03/09 at 05:55 PM
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Do you look like one? LOL! Nice video btw.


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